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'GIMP On OS X' was a separate project of GIMP, headed by an independent developer with the avatar 'Lisanet', who created custom builds of GIMP from the official gimp.org release. These custom GIMP On OS X builds had additional features and some mods in the menu structure to make easier for users who used Photoshop.

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  1. In the menu, click help, and then procedure browser. In the procedure browser search for 'file-ps-load'. If it's not listed, Gimp won't open ps or eps files. My version of Gimp doesn't have this. But I haven't tried downloading the current version, maybe the current version has this enabled.
  2. GIMP (GNU Image Manipulation Program) is an open source, and freely distributed piece of software used for photo manipulation and retouching.
  3. App-core-gimp-user-install.c.diff Ah! This one looks interesting. It adds some migration code for the config in /Library/GIMP (apparently 2.8.2) to /Library/Application Support/GIMP (since 2.8.4). Code checked and does some bad things (like moving config folder of older versions!) so I basically rewrote it fully.
  4. Apr 09, 2020 4 GIMP 2.10.18 now offers a super cool 3D transform tool and streamlines the UI; Nov 03, 2019 3 GIMP introduces basic out-of-canvas editing! Apr 18, 2019 12 GIMP 2.10.10: Cool new stuff incoming!

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Gimp 2.8 blend time C55inator 11 May 13:57
Gimp 2.8 blend time gfxuser 11 May 14:54
Gimp 2.8 blend time Michael Natterer 11 May 15:29
Gimp 2.8 blend time gfxuser 11 May 21:01
Gimp 2.8 blend time Partha Bagchi 11 May 21:14
Native Mac version gfxuser 12 May 05:10
Gimp 2.8 blend time Michael Natterer 11 May 23:21
Gimp 2.8 blend time Guillermo Espertino (Gez) 12 May 03:16
Gimp 2.8 blend time Michael Natterer 12 May 07:41
Gimp 2.8 blend time Owen 12 May 05:11
Gimp 2.8 blend time Michael Natterer 12 May 07:42
2012-05-11 13:57:25 UTC (over 8 years ago)permalink

Gimp 2.8 blend time

So, I've recently switched from gimp 2.6 to gimp 2.8, and I found that the time taken to draw gradients is far longer in 2.8 than in 2.6

To test, I made a blank black canvas at 1024px, then drew a radial gradient from center to edge. 2.6 drew it in under a second. 2.8 took 8.7 seconds to complete.

Is this something that others have noticed? Is it a result of the move to GEGL? Will it be fixed?

Specs:2.2ghz core two duo
Radeon x1600
2gb ram
Snow Leopard

2012-05-11 14:54:09 UTC (over 8 years ago)permalink

Gimp 2.8 blend time

Hi,

So, I've recently switched from gimp 2.6 to gimp 2.8, and I found that the time taken to draw gradients is far longer in 2.8 than in 2.6

To test, I made a blank black canvas at 1024px, then drew a radial gradient from center to edge. 2.6 drew it in under a second. 2.8 took 8.7 seconds to complete.

Is this something that others have noticed?

Yes, I can reproduce it with the 2.8 builds for Mac and Windows. The slowdown does not only affect the blend tool. This seems to be related with color management. In the Windows version you can speedup the blend tool among some other things by disabling the color management filter in View/Display filters.. This does a speedup for me, but it's only a temporary solution, as this only affects the currently open picture and only for this session. Also see bug #645345 in Bugzilla for a similar problem.
It's the same problem with the Mac version. 2.8 is slower than 2.6, but unfortunately the View/Display filters.. trick doesn't work there.

Is it a result of the move to GEGL?

I think so.

Will it be fixed?

I hope so. This bug tempers the GIMP 2.8 honeymoon and I'm already thinking of staying with 2.6 for production or further using PS.

Or, the other way around: never switch to x.0 versions.. ;-)

Best regards,

grafxuser

2012-05-11 15:29:29 UTC (over 8 years ago)permalink

Gimp 2.8 blend time

On Fri, 2012-05-11 at 06:57 -0700, C55inator wrote:

So, I've recently switched from gimp 2.6 to gimp 2.8, and I found that the time taken to draw gradients is far longer in 2.8 than in 2.6

To test, I made a blank black canvas at 1024px, then drew a radial gradient from center to edge. 2.6 drew it in under a second. 2.8 took 8.7 seconds to complete.

Is this something that others have noticed? Is it a result of the move to GEGL? Will it be fixed?

GIMP 2.8 is not ported to GEGL.

If I try this on git master (which IS ported to GEGL), it takes muchless than a second on my linux machine, and is even faster onmy Mac, even though there is zero threading and only one processorused.

I don't currently have 2.8 installed on this Mac, but it can hardlybe slower, unless the threading got broken in GLib, try to set#processors to 1 in prefs and try again.

Also, what build are you using? Native or X11?

--Mitch

2012-05-11 21:01:15 UTC (over 8 years ago)permalink

Gimp 2.8 blend time

Hi,

On 2012-05-11.12 Michael Natterer wrote:

I don't currently have 2.8 installed on this Mac, but it can hardlybe slower, unless the threading got broken in GLib, try to set#processors to 1 in prefs and try again.

thanks Mitch, for your reply.
You're right, on the Mac it depends on the number of processors. Varying this number in the preferences dialog between 1 and 16 showed significant differences. The operation takes 1 second if #processors is set to 1 and about 8 seconds if it's set to 16 processors.BTW: my Mac has 1 processor with 2 cores. It's quite pointless to be able to set #processors in prefs to 16. The upper bound for the input value should be the actual number of processors or cores. Is this a known issue or shall I file a new bug in Bugzilla?

Also, what build are you using? Native or X11?

How can I find this out? I used the fresh 2.8 version from gimp.lisanet.de. When running GIMP, the X window is open, too. So I'm sure it's the X11 build. How could I otherwise find out whether the Mac build is native?

Best regards,

grafxuser

2012-05-11 21:14:56 UTC (over 8 years ago)permalink

Gimp 2.8 blend time

The native Mac build has the menu all on the top just like all other Mac apps.

On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 5:01 PM, gfxuser wrote:

Hi,

On 2012-05-11.12 Michael Natterer wrote:

I don't currently have 2.8 installed on this Mac, but it can hardly be slower, unless the threading got broken in GLib, try to set #processors to 1 in prefs and try again.

thanks Mitch, for your reply.
You're right, on the Mac it depends on the number of processors. Varying this number in the preferences dialog between 1 and 16 showed significant differences. The operation takes 1 second if #processors is set to 1 and about 8 seconds if it's set to 16 processors. BTW: my Mac has 1 processor with 2 cores. It's quite pointless to be able to set #processors in prefs to 16. The upper bound for the input value should be the actual number of processors or cores. Is this a known issue or shall I file a new bug in Bugzilla?

Also, what build are you using? Native or X11?

How can I find this out? I used the fresh 2.8 version from gimp.lisanet.de. When running GIMP, the X window is open, too. So I'm sure it's the X11 build. How could I otherwise find out whether the Mac build is native?

Best regards,

grafxuser

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2012-05-11 23:21:48 UTC (over 8 years ago)permalink

Gimp 2.8 blend time

On Fri, 2012-05-11 at 23:01 +0200, gfxuser wrote:

Hi,

On 2012-05-11.12 Michael Natterer wrote:

I don't currently have 2.8 installed on this Mac, but it can hardlybe slower, unless the threading got broken in GLib, try to set#processors to 1 in prefs and try again.

thanks Mitch, for your reply.
You're right, on the Mac it depends on the number of processors. Varying this number in the preferences dialog between 1 and 16 showed significant differences. The operation takes 1 second if #processors is set to 1 and about 8 seconds if it's set to 16 processors.BTW: my Mac has 1 processor with 2 cores. It's quite pointless to be able to set #processors in prefs to 16. The upper bound for the input value should be the actual number of processors or cores. Is this a known issue or shall I file a new bug in Bugzilla?

Please file it in bugzilla, it's pointless to use threading if it makesthings slower, and we have no code to determine the #cpus on the macanyway, so we should default to one.

Also, what build are you using? Native or X11?

How can I find this out? I used the fresh 2.8 version from gimp.lisanet.de. When running GIMP, the X window is open, too. So I'm sure it's the X11 build. How could I otherwise find out whether the Mac build is native?

As Partha said :)

Open doc document. Regards,
--mitch

2012-05-12 03:16:38 UTC (over 8 years ago)permalink

Gimp 2.8 blend time

El 11/05/12 20:21, Michael Natterer escribi:

Please file it in bugzilla, it's pointless to use threading if it makes things slower, and we have no code to determine the #cpus on the mac anyway, so we should default to one.

My 2.9 install on linux (Debian, 64 bit) also detected the number of cpus incorrectly. I'm using a Quad Core and it defaulted to 8 threads and it also made some things slower. 2.8 worked fine though, it's set to 4 threads and I can't notice any slowness because of that.

Gez.

2012-05-12 05:10:10 UTC (over 8 years ago)permalink

Native Mac version

Partha Bagchi wrote (was: Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp 2.8 blend time)

The native Mac build has the menu all on the top just like all other Mac apps.

Thanks. Until now I didn't know of the native Mac build at all. Are these the versions from Macports or Fink? Where can I get it from, otherwise?
I always used Simone's build (gimp.lisanet.de) and was quite lucky with it. But currently there's a bug with the curves tool (bug #675906),which makes photo editing with GIMP harder and I'd like to check this with the native version, too.

Thanks,grafxuser

2012-05-12 05:11:00 UTC (over 8 years ago)permalink

Gimp 2.8 blend time

So, I've recently switched from gimp 2.6 to gimp 2.8, and I found thatthe time taken to draw gradients is far longer in 2.8 than in 2.6

To test, I made a blank black canvas at 1024px, then drew a radialgradient from center to edge. 2.6 drew it in under a second. 2.8took 8.7 seconds to complete.

Is this something that others have noticed? Is it a result of themove to GEGL? Will it be fixed?

I just tried this on 2.9 (SUSE) and it did it in less than a second.

However all the 'Shaped' gradients took ages, like a minute or morecompared to a few seconds in 2.6

2012-05-12 07:41:47 UTC (over 8 years ago)permalink

Gimp 2.8 blend time

On Sat, 2012-05-12 at 00:16 -0300, Guillermo Espertino (Gez) wrote:

El 11/05/12 20:21, Michael Natterer escribió:

Please file it in bugzilla, it's pointless to use threading if it makes things slower, and we have no code to determine the #cpus on the mac anyway, so we should default to one.

Gimp Lisanet Definition

My 2.9 install on linux (Debian, 64 bit) also detected the number of cpus incorrectly. I'm using a Quad Core and it defaulted to 8 threads and it also made some things slower.2.8 worked fine though, it's set to 4 threads and I can't notice any slowness because of that.

Ignore any threading in 2.9, it's all going away and transparentlyhandled by GEGL/OpenCL.

--Mitch

2012-05-12 07:42:47 UTC (over 8 years ago)permalink

Gimp 2.8 blend time

On Sat, 2012-05-12 at 15:11 +1000, Owen wrote:

So, I've recently switched from gimp 2.6 to gimp 2.8, and I found thatthe time taken to draw gradients is far longer in 2.8 than in 2.6

To test, I made a blank black canvas at 1024px, then drew a radialgradient from center to edge. 2.6 drew it in under a second. 2.8took 8.7 seconds to complete.

Is this something that others have noticed? Is it a result of themove to GEGL? Will it be fixed?

Gimp Lisanet Default

I just tried this on 2.9 (SUSE) and it did it in less than a second.

However all the 'Shaped' gradients took ages, like a minute or morecompared to a few seconds in 2.6

Known problem with GimpOperatrionShapeburst, will be fixed.

--Mitch

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Gimp 2.6.x for Mac OS X releasedlisanet 11 Oct 13:12
Gimp 2.6.x for Mac OS X released Delos Woodruff 11 Oct 13:16
Gimp 2.6.x for Mac OS X releasedlisanet 11 Oct 13:40
Gimp 2.6.x for Mac OS X released Sven Neumann 12 Oct 13:31
Gimp 2.6.x for Mac OS X releasedlisanet 15 Oct 20:48
Gimp 2.6.x for Mac OS X released Bettina Karena Lechner 15 Oct 20:56
Gimp 2.6.1 now available on MacPorts David Evans 15 Oct 22:02
Gimp 2.6.1 now available on MacPortslisanet 15 Oct 22:30
Gimp 2.6.x for Mac OS X released Bettina Karena Lechner 16 Oct 08:19
Gimp 2.6.x for Mac OS X releasedlisanet 18 Oct 22:54
Gimp 2.6.x for Mac OS X released Sven Neumann 18 Oct 23:39
Gimp 2.6.x for Mac OS X releasedlisanet 19 Oct 01:20
Gimp 2.6.x for Mac OS X releasedLydia 13 Oct 13:05
2008-10-11 13:12:20 UTC (about 12 years ago)permalink

Gimp 2.6.x for Mac OS X released

.. for you information.

I've recently uploaded two new releases for Gimp 2.6.x for Mac OS X. Theyare Portable ssd storage devices.

Gimp 2.6.1 for Leopard / Inteland
Gimp 2.6.0 for Leopard / PowerPC

You can download them from my site on

or directly from SF

Enjoy.

2008-10-11 13:16:04 UTC (about 12 years ago)permalink

Gimp 2.6.x for Mac OS X released

This is very cool. Will it work on Tiger?

On Oct 11, 2008, at 7:12 AM, Simone wrote:

.. for you information.

I've recently uploaded two new releases for Gimp 2.6.x for Mac OS X. They
are

Gimp 2.6.1 for Leopard / Inteland
Gimp 2.6.0 for Leopard / PowerPC

You can download them from my site on

or directly from SF

Gimp Lisanet Delete

Enjoy.

2008-10-11 13:40:30 UTC (about 12 years ago)permalink

Gimp 2.6.x for Mac OS X released

This is very cool. Will it work on Tiger?

I'm currently working on a Tiger / Intel version, so stay tuned.

2008-10-12 13:31:27 UTC (about 12 years ago)permalink

Gimp 2.6.x for Mac OS X released

Hi,

it's a pain if the Mac OS X support team changes the website and thedownload URLs every once in a while. It would be really nice if theApple users could get their act together and provide a single place thatprovides information and downloads for GIMP on Mac OS X.

We can't even link to your website as it seems to only provideinformation in German?! What about moving your packages towilber-loves-apple.org instead of duplicating that effort?

Sven

2008-10-13 13:05:28 UTC (about 12 years ago)permalink

Gimp 2.6.x for Mac OS X released

The Mac release of Gimp 2.6.1 at lisanet.de has exceeded my expectations thusfar. 2.6.0 was rough in comparison on my machine, with many buttonsinaccessible and features unavailable. I am running Leopard on a MacBook Proand this release runs much, much faster and cleaner on my laptop then Gimp 2.4did on a good day. Text rendering is more streamlined and filters aredefinitely running fast and smooth. I will continue exploring the newfeatures and will comment if any troubles arise. Lydia

2008-10-15 20:48:29 UTC (about 12 years ago)permalink

Gimp 2.6.x for Mac OS X released

it's a pain if the Mac OS X support team changes the website and thedownload URLs every once in a while. It would be really nice if theApple users could get their act together and provide a single place thatprovides information and downloads for GIMP on Mac OS X.

sorry for the pain with the current situation of Gimp on Macs. It's a pittythat it just came to this situation. I don't want to recall the discussions onwilber-loves-apple, but as I'm one of the developers who did most of theinitial way how Gimp was built on WLA, the project is somehow stillcontinuing, despite the new URL..

We can't even link to your website as it seems to only provideinformation in German?! What about moving your packages towilber-loves-apple.org instead of duplicating that effort?

As I never wanted to take over the lead role in providing packages in thefirst place, the page started as a small site, documenting my efforts. Now, asWLA seems to be down, I'll try to translate the pages. I can drop you a linewhen it's done.

Again, sorry, for all the circumstances.

2008-10-15 20:56:41 UTC (about 12 years ago)permalink

Gimp 2.6.x for Mac OS X released

I really appreciate your efforts!thank you very much Simone,
Tina

Von: Simone
Datum: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 20:48:29 +0200 (CEST)An:
Betreff: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.6.x for Mac OS X released

it's a pain if the Mac OS X support team changes the website and thedownload URLs every once in a while. It would be really nice if theApple users could get their act together and provide a single place thatprovides information and downloads for GIMP on Mac OS X.

sorry for the pain with the current situation of Gimp on Macs. It's a pittythat it just came to this situation. I don't want to recall the discussions onwilber-loves-apple, but as I'm one of the developers who did most of theinitial way how Gimp was built on WLA, the project is somehow stillcontinuing, despite the new URL..

We can't even link to your website as it seems to only provideinformation in German?! What about moving your packages towilber-loves-apple.org instead of duplicating that effort?

As I never wanted to take over the lead role in providing packages in thefirst place, the page started as a small site, documenting my efforts. Now, asWLA seems to be down, I'll try to translate the pages. I can drop you a linewhen it's done.

Again, sorry, for all the circumstances.

2008-10-15 22:02:01 UTC (about 12 years ago)permalink

Gimp 2.6.1 now available on MacPorts

Just to let you know that the GIMP port on MacPorts has been upgraded to2.6.1.

See http://www.macports.org

2008-10-15 22:30:59 UTC (about 12 years ago)permalink

Gimp 2.6.1 now available on MacPorts

Just to let you know that the GIMP port on MacPorts has been upgraded to2.6.1.

See http://www.macports.org

thanks for the hint.

Packages for 2.6.1 are already available. You can download them from thesites / sourceforge project mentioned above. (for any combinationLeopard/Tiger/Intel/PPC)

2008-10-16 08:19:26 UTC (about 12 years ago)permalink

Gimp 2.6.x for Mac OS X released

I really appreciate your efforts!thank you very much Simone,
Tina

Von: Simone
Datum: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 20:48:29 +0200 (CEST)An:
Betreff: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.6.x for Mac OS X released

it's a pain if the Mac OS X support team changes the website and thedownload URLs every once in a while. It would be really nice if theApple users could get their act together and provide a single place thatprovides information and downloads for GIMP on Mac OS X.

sorry for the pain with the current situation of Gimp on Macs. It's a pittythat it just came to this situation. I don't want to recall the discussions onwilber-loves-apple, but as I'm one of the developers who did most of theinitial way how Gimp was built on WLA, the project is somehow stillcontinuing, despite the new URL..

We can't even link to your website as it seems to only provideinformation in German?! What about moving your packages towilber-loves-apple.org instead of duplicating that effort?

As I never wanted to take over the lead role in providing packages in thefirst place, the page started as a small site, documenting my efforts. Now, asWLA seems to be down, I'll try to translate the pages. I can drop you a linewhen it's done.

Again, sorry, for all the circumstances.

2008-10-18 22:54:38 UTC (about 12 years ago)permalink

Gimp 2.6.x for Mac OS X released

Hi

the pages are now translated to english. So, is there a chance that you'll place a link on gimp.org's download pagesto point to either ot http://gimp.lisanet.de or to the sourceforge projectsite http://sourceforge.net/projects/gimponosx ?This would make it easier for users to find the recent packages of Gimp 2.6.xfor Mac OS X.

Thank you in advance, and again, sorry for all the circumstances.

Simone

2008-10-18 23:39:06 UTC (about 12 years ago)permalink

Gimp 2.6.x for Mac OS X released

Hi,

On Sat, 2008-10-18 at 22:54 +0200, Simone wrote:

the pages are now translated to english. So, is there a chance that you'll place a link on gimp.org's download pagesto point to either ot http://gimp.lisanet.de or to the sourceforge projectsite http://sourceforge.net/projects/gimponosx ?

Yeah, I can do that.

Would you mind to fix the spelling of GIMP on your web pages? Theapplication is called 'GNU Image Manipulation Program', or short 'GIMP',not 'Gimp'. Thanks.

Sven

2008-10-19 01:20:19 UTC (about 12 years ago)permalink
Lisanet

Gimp 2.6.x for Mac OS X released

Would you mind to fix the spelling of GIMP on your web pages? Theapplication is called 'GNU Image Manipulation Program', or short 'GIMP',not 'Gimp'. Thanks.

.. done.

Simone





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